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What is Cupron material from EOS
Last Post 10 Jan 2012 08:09 PM by Andy Graves. 35 Replies.
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03 Dec 2011 07:18 PM
Do you have color matched adhesive?
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05 Dec 2011 04:40 PM
Yes, the material will have matching adhesive
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07 Jan 2012 12:37 PM
Copper is an interesting element.

While stainless steel is promoted as a 'clean surface" used in kitchens, and for mortuary tables, copper is under rated in its toxicity to microbes. Did ya all know brass door knobs are less contaminated by germs than stainless steel ones because the copper in the brass seems to kill them all?

While this may seem like a good thing at first, if copper kills microbes what effect can it have on other living organisms, like human beings for example?

I don't know, not having studied it, but for an interesting look see what this State government fact sheet has to say. See HERE

Gordon, Have you done any studies where an acidic food like grapefruit (which will leach copper alot) is placed on a countertop and then eaten?

Just wondering.

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07 Jan 2012 01:56 PM
Safety Testing

Because Cupron Technology is based on copper oxide which is a natural, non-soluble form of copper, and copper is a required nutrient for healthier living, the body is generally capable of processing copper and maintaining proper copper levels.

Cupron Technology has been multiple-independently testedin laboratory settings against generally accepted clinical test protocols, utilizing standard Good Laboratory Practices (GLP) test conditions. And under these conditions, Cupron Technology is consistently found to be non-toxic, non sensitizing, and non-irritating to the skin with no adverse events reported. Cupron Enhanced products tested include healthcare linens, socks, consumer bedding, wound dressing prototypes, antiviral masks and surfacing materials.

Specific test results are maintained on file and available upon a qualified request.

In addition to specific safety testing performed on Cupron Technology, the risk of dermal sensitivity to copper is considered extremely minimal. Furthermore, longstanding commercial use of personal care products validates the laboratory results described above. That copper is considered safe to humans. Note the widespread (millions of women) and prolonged (more than 10 years by a single individual) use by women of copper internal medical devices (1) and over-the-counter wound healing treatments containing copper (2).


(1)Hubacher et al (2001) Use of copper intrauterine devices and the risk of tubal infertility among nulligravid women. N Engl J Med. 345:561-7; Anon. (2002) Copper IUDs, infection and infertility. Drug Ther Bull. 40:67-9; Bilian X. (2002) Intrauterine devices. Best Pract Res Clin Obstet Gynaecol. 16:155-68.

(2)Pereira CE, and Felcman J. (1998) Correlation between five minerals and the healing effect of Brazilian medicinal plants. Biol Trace Elem Res. 65:251-259; Schlemm et al. (1999) Medicinal yeast extracts. Cell Stress Chaperones. 1999;4:171-6.

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07 Jan 2012 02:20 PM
Lenny,
I do not personally do the studies on Cupron technology we have folks slightly above my pay grade that do that, you can view more studies HERE.
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08 Jan 2012 01:29 PM
Posted By Gordon Shell on 07 Jan 2012 09:20 AM
Lenny,
I do not personally do the studies on Cupron technology we have folks slightly above my pay grade that do that, you can view more studies HERE.

Gordon,

Have you passed NSF yet? When you do that, I have no qualms about anything. They always have some young toxicoligist who dots the i's and crosses the T's with respect to metals.

It's always a different toxicoligist, as they tend to use NSF as a stepping stone to the dreaded, yet high paying , (with our tax dollars), FDA. :)
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08 Jan 2012 11:11 PM

Our current EOS products have NSF certification and we plan to have NSF certification on future products as well.

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09 Jan 2012 12:18 PM
So is that a "yes" or a "not yet"?
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09 Jan 2012 02:53 PM
That is a "not yet". We plan to have NSF certification, and we are going thru the testing and certifications with Cupron. Our initial target for Cupron is not food service or food prep areas, the antimicrobial properties of EOS with Cupron targets "Touch Surfaces" in hospitals such as nurses stations, overbed tables, chair caps, wall surfaces, hand rails, bed rails, labs, waiting rooms, etc.
Initially you will not see alot of residential, or food service installs of EOS with Cupron.
All certifications will be released with the products during 2012.
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09 Jan 2012 03:08 PM
Good question Tom,

You always were the astute one, and much more polite than me.

Lets wait and see on this hyped shindig, shall we?
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09 Jan 2012 03:48 PM
Wow, Lenny,
Not sure what I did to you that prompts you to throw out terms like "B.S. Marketing" and "Hype Shindig" but I guess I apologize? What portion of the antimicrobial benefits of copper in touch surfaces are you disputing? The current claims that I have posted are all EPA certified, I did not make them up.
Copper has been used as an antimicrobial for many years, including medical implants, IUD's, pipes for our DRINKING WATER, storage tanks for our drinking water, etc.

I am not the creator of copper or Cupron technology, nor is EOS Surfaces llc, we are just the first to combine the benefits of solid surface with the benefits of Cupron.

if you click HERE you will find hours worth of information, not created by, "Hyped" by, or "B.S." marketed by myself or EOS.

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09 Jan 2012 04:02 PM
Posted By Lenny E on 09 Jan 2012 10:08 AM
Good question Tom,

You always were the astute one, and much more polite than me.

Lets wait and see on this hyped shindig, shall we?


And with the above quote I will close out my conversation on Cupron enhanced EOS.

The product, certifications, and marketing materials will be released in 2012.
New information will be updated @ www.eos-surfaces.com/cupron
Feel free to contact me @ gordon@eos-surfaces.com for additional information.
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09 Jan 2012 04:51 PM
Cutting out al the marketing BS, IN OTHER WORDS, you dont have NSF certication yet.

Correct me if I am wrong GORDON.
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09 Jan 2012 08:12 PM
Posted By Lenny E on 09 Jan 2012 11:51 AM
Cutting out al the marketing BS, IN OTHER WORDS, you dont have NSF certication yet.

Correct me if I am wrong GORDON.
Asked and answered.

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10 Jan 2012 12:25 PM
I'm sure the marketing opportunities will open up once you get an acceptable NSF status. The prospect of hand rails, and other sundry non-food surface applications is great, but service counters and table tops will get you the kind of volume that makes the difference.

Good luck, Gordon.

I'm still on the fence about laminating the bottom of the boat with it, but once those gas prices come down...
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10 Jan 2012 08:09 PM
I think this is a great idea. I positions solid surface as the go to material for all future hospitals. What an opportunity for those of us fabricating solid surface and getting killed by quartz and granite.
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