Tom M
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| 08 Sep 2010 10:11 PM |
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Talk about your nanny states: "Homebuilders lost an
appeal to Commonwealth Court of their challenge of state building codes
requiring sprinkler systems be installed in newly constructed
single-family homes and townhomes next year.
Builders contend the new code will raise housing prices between $5,000
to $12,000 for some homes, forcing buyers to pay for a feature they
don't want, with little discernible safety benefit."
Next up? Every appliance including lights must be hard-wired to avoid potential electrical injuries. Sure, laugh now...
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Bill Wolle
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| 08 Sep 2010 11:53 PM |
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Tom, Although I agree with you, is it really any different than the earthquake requirements for CA or the hurricane requirements for FL? |
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Kowboy
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| 09 Sep 2010 03:30 AM |
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Posted By William Wolle on 08 Sep 2010 05:53 PM Tom, Although I agree with you, is it really any different than the earthquake requirements for CA or the hurricane requirements for FL? Bill: Yes, the difference is that earthquakes and hurricanes have no lobbyists, unlike sprinkler fitters. Cynically, Joe |
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Norm Walters
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| 09 Sep 2010 12:26 PM |
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In Florida if I pull a permit for a kitchen or bath remodel I have to install smoke detectors in every bedroom etc. hard wired to each other. I suppose this is because some people can't remember to replace the batteries in their smoke detectors. |
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Lenny E
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| 09 Sep 2010 12:51 PM |
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The sun is up in the US and that earlybird Norm is up and working! Norm, your post had me laughing.They make you hardwire them? Geez! Unbelievable! How can someone forget to replace the batterys in a smoke detector?. Mine start beeping in an irritating fashion when the battery goes down to a low power level. Its never during the day or on a rare day when I have nothing to do, its always at 2 or 3 AM, on a day I have to get up early and fly somewhere. I call those batterys alwaysready instead of everready, because the ones in the smoke detector are always ready to spoil my sleep!  |
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Bill Wolle
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| 09 Sep 2010 01:08 PM |
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Lenny, The detectors in my house in 'Vegas are hard wired with battery backup and yes, those batteries die at 2:00 AM also!  |
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Tom M
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| 09 Sep 2010 02:16 PM |
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For one thing, if and when a Hurricane hits, it hits a neighborhood, a town, a state... If you think that zoning folks have the right to force you to spend that kind of money on that kind of item, then you are admitting there is no end to what a town or a state can force you to accept in your home in the name of "safety" if you want to live in that town. We really need to stop this mandate crap. |
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Kelsey Crisp
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| 09 Sep 2010 02:32 PM |
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so what if the new house goes into an old neighborhood that does not have adaquate water pressure? Geez... can see where this might go... crazy!
Plus... sprinkler overhead... 2" line? Who places water lines in the attic in the north or other places that has cold temps.
Another way to kill the homebuilding! |
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Lenny E
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| 09 Sep 2010 03:16 PM |
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Tom,
You are correct! I agree wholeheartedly! Expect the following, coming to zoning ordinances near you soon!
1.) The safety harness for the tub, so you don't slip and fall. 2.) No toilet seats! They are afraid if it falls it may bang you on the head if you happen to be vomiting in the toilet and you will drown in the bowl! 3.) Spy vision in yourTV, smoke detectors etc, to make sure you comply!
The rise of the Nanny State!
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Tom M
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| 09 Sep 2010 04:16 PM |
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"Spy vision in your TV, smoke detectors etc, to make sure you comply!" Reminds me of Winston Smith in Mr. Orwell's book doing his excersizes "You're not trying hard enough Mr. Smith!" I guess we were always at war with EastAsia What time is it where you are? It must be like, a hundred o'clock or something! Get some sleep, Senpai. |
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Tom M
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| 09 Sep 2010 04:28 PM |
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Suppose there was a material that automatically released a foam in any area in your house that caught fire. It could save all your belongings. It could save your family's lives. No matter the cost, we should mandate it to be installed in every new house. Good idea? Heck, why not simply require alarm systems in every home? |
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Mike Gladstone
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| 09 Sep 2010 08:14 PM |
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And....What about that pissed off little kid that happens to have a lighter or matches.......  |
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Andy Graves
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| 09 Sep 2010 08:32 PM |
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I think the home sprinklers are already required in new homes here in California. But we are rich so it shouldn't matter. Imagine all the jobs it will create. Maybe we can use pipe made out of green material like Hemp to save the planet. It should also cut the expenses to burn victims that are on the Obama Care. Politicians are stupid. You heard it here first. |
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David Gerard
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| 09 Sep 2010 10:51 PM |
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Andy, that explains why I heard Arnold Swarztneggar yelling "Vee neet Vatar" it was for the residential sprinklers. |
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