Peter Carpenter
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| 21 Aug 2010 10:12 PM |
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Hey guy's is there any easy way to tell if a product is Acrylic or Polyester, or Poly blended with Acrylic. With all this new material coming from China it is hard for me to know what I am working with. Labels can be misleading. |
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Kowboy
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| 22 Aug 2010 03:11 AM |
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Posted By Peter Carpenter on 21 Aug 2010 04:12 PM
Hey guy's is there any easy way to tell if a product is Acrylic or Polyester, or Poly blended with Acrylic. With all this new material coming from China it is hard for me to know what I am working with. Labels can be misleading. Peter: Push a spinning router bit into it and smell. Joe |
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Andy Graves
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| 23 Aug 2010 08:22 PM |
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There is a way, a friend here told me how to compare. Problem is, I don't remember how to do it. Another suggestion would be to get their MSDS sheet. Seems like it may list polyester if in fact there was some in the material. |
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Peter Carpenter
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| 23 Aug 2010 08:47 PM |
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I smell so many different solid surface materials that I can't tell the difference between them. And they fib on the msds sheets so that is no help to me either thanks Andy. |
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Gene McDonald
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| 24 Aug 2010 12:20 AM |
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Put a sample in a jar of acetone...Poly nuthin will happen to it, acrylic will look like a piece of dry rot in 2-3 days |
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Kelsey Crisp
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| 24 Aug 2010 02:44 AM |
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if you burn poly, it will smell very sweet |
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Peter Carpenter
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| 24 Aug 2010 09:04 PM |
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Thanks Gene and Kelsey I try those methods. |
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Tom M
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| 25 Aug 2010 05:59 AM |
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Lenny said that a poly will heat up in a microwave, much more than an acrylic. He may have hit the snake wine that day, but I don't doubt that guy for a minute. |
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Brian Stone
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| 25 Aug 2010 01:37 PM |
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Posted By Tom M on 24 Aug 2010 11:59 PM
Lenny said that a poly will heat up in a microwave, much more than an acrylic.
Is that the redneck version of a thermoform oven? |
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Tom M
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| 25 Aug 2010 04:36 PM |
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Only for poly's, apparently. I keep mine out back, by the laminate still... |
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John Christensen
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| 25 Aug 2010 05:10 PM |
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Tom, What kind of moonshiner are you, that you can distill laminate?  Johnny C |
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Tom M
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| 26 Aug 2010 03:54 PM |
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That phenolic will turn ya blind, I tells ya. |
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Gene McDonald
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| 26 Aug 2010 04:51 PM |
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Tom..I still love me my mica...which leads me to think..um, uh, um..my name is Gene and Im a Phenolicaholic..  Just did some laminate and its alot more scratch resistant than ah I wont say it...  |
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Tom M
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| 26 Aug 2010 05:01 PM |
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Maybe this topic should be moved to the laminate ghetto? I tells ya, Greenie, when WislonArt first came out with the HD stuff, I was underwhelmed. We made some post formed tops they could bring around to different events. Many years later, I think it is the best laminate out there. We have had almost no one tell us the stuff is any harder to clean, and it is certainly more scuff resistant. I love that stuff. |
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Peter Carpenter
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| 26 Aug 2010 09:00 PM |
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I stoped doing laminate because it couldn't even survive the trades, the plumber would scratch the top near the sink or cooktop the electrician would wipe his bits of wire off and scratch the top and the tiller would drag a box of tiles across it and scratch the top. Then unlike solid surface where I can come back and polish out the scratches we have to remove the benchtop and replace it. No money in that and many arguements with people, we always would end up replacing them and it usually was the top in the middle of a u shaped kitchen. |
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David Gerard
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| 26 Aug 2010 11:45 PM |
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Peter, we cover all our tops with cardboard and put the death note on it. I also mention to any sub on site when we are there to keep their stuff off the tops. My brother had to show a plumber how it works. A soft tote tool box can sail pretty far. |
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