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Shower Pan Help - Non Slip ???
Last Post 20 Sep 2011 08:18 PM by Andy Graves. 37 Replies.
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Karl Crooks
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22 Oct 2009 05:34 PM
     
      We have a customer that just installed a Corian shower. Her complain is the shower pan. Her husband fell this morning because the pan is to slippery. She wants to know is there any thing we can do to avoid him from slipping again. The installer sanded it down and its still to slippery. Any thoughts on what could be done ?  

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    22 Oct 2009 06:57 PM

    Karl, Spray acetone on it or eugenol...what the dentist dudes use..it puts a tooth on acrylic...but ya hafta leave it on over night..but if you are later than 12 hours it will crack..you can make a cool texture with a wire brush if your are there in the tenth and 11th hour..then give a final sand of 220...it will be a little pourous...dont wipe it on spray mist it first...

     

    if ya want get wild put a leaf shape on the floor and spray around...

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    22 Oct 2009 07:34 PM
    120 grit rough thats it. I would never sand a shower pan past 120 grit.
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    22 Oct 2009 08:06 PM
    Put some of those pretty flower or dolphin shaped anti-slip stickers on it!

    Could you do some type of light sand blasting to give it a texture? I'm sure it would be hell to clean after that but it would not be slippery.

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    22 Oct 2009 08:52 PM
    Sand with no more than 120 but 80 grit will give a nice bite and we have never had someone fall. You may also suggest some grab bars.

    80 grit will look a little dull but the color will still show up nice especially when wet.
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    22 Oct 2009 09:47 PM
    hey guys..thanks for the dont sand over 220 dealio..I got to thinking..is there a liability on our part..do youse guys have them sign wavers..that its a slip free shower pan?..i did da surround thing..but not a pan...dam I feel like a dingbat telling him to spray acetone on it..I know it will tear it up..but come to think of it..the peopl will call Karl back and say now my husband is stuck to the shower pan cause the Corian points expanded into his feet...OUCH...group ideas are always helpful...cant wait to do a shower pan
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    22 Oct 2009 11:28 PM
    Gene, no court would recognize a signed statement by a customer acknowledging a slippery floor. No lawyer, I, but I have yet to see a court allow a company to sign away responsibility. Won't happen. Just like a person cannot sign away rights given in the constitution.

    A shower floor should not be slippery when wet.
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    23 Oct 2009 12:27 AM

    Polish 'er up and put some of those gritty dolphins or strips down as Brian suggested.

     

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    23 Oct 2009 12:40 AM
    I would take two inch strapping tape, (that's the kind with nylon reinforcement) and place the tape in rows on the pan leaving  one inch gaps between the rows on the pan. I would then take some color matching adhesive and mix in some anti-skid material (silica sand) and apply the adhesive with a broad plastic putty knife over the tape and all, in the same direction as the tape, leaving a very thin layer. Once the adhesive dries, pull the tape and you have a color matched non skid strips. Hope this makes sense, it's kind of a combination of several different trades.
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    23 Oct 2009 01:06 AM
    No worries Gene. I would have done the same thing to bring out the color and make it look nice. It's just too slippery.
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    23 Oct 2009 08:02 AM
    Posted By Andy on 22 Oct 2009 08:06 PM
    No worries Gene. I would have done the same thing to bring out the color and make it look nice. It's just too slippery.

    Andy:

    Wet Corian with a matte finish is no more slippery than other surfaces commonly used in showers.




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    23 Oct 2009 11:08 AM
    Good point Kowboy..... there is nothing worse than a fiberglass unit.  If you didn't have a mat in those you could not stand up.  I really think those are worst than SS.
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    23 Oct 2009 11:54 PM
    I don't think it is more or less slippery than other surfaces, I just think it is better with the rougher finish. I honestly think the guy just slipped and really has nothing to do with the material or what it was sanded with.

    Solid surface just isn't that slippery when wet.
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    24 Oct 2009 02:33 AM
    Posted By Andy on 23 Oct 2009 06:54 PM
    I don't think it is more or less slippery than other surfaces, I just think it is better with the rougher finish. I honestly think the guy just slipped and really has nothing to do with the material or what it was sanded with.

    Solid surface just isn't that slippery when wet.

    I Totaly agree with this.  I think somewhere Corian has a white paper that deals with non-slip surface and if finished to a matte finish it meets ADA specs for non-slip.

    Joe you are such a good resource hound.  You got anything on this?

    There has been some discusion here on SS sinks being hard to clean.  The common agreement seems to be that the rougher the finish on the sink the harder it is to clean.  Imagine how hard it will be to clean a build up of body oils from a floor that is only finished to 120 grit.

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    24 Oct 2009 12:59 PM

    Okay, do any of you remember the Corian shower pans made by DuPont? How about the Corian floor tiles?

    Anyway, floors are rated on the coefficient of friction. When tested, Corian was LESS slippery than ceramic tile but there were still problems. The solution? The grout joints! No, do not cut the shower pan into little parts. But you can route a very shallow design into the base like a sink drain board. The design lets your toes and the bottom of your feet grab hold. Kind of the same as those dolphins somebody else mentioned but this will sure look better. If you are really good, you can slope the design to help the pan drain as well.

    Karl, not sure if just anybody could do this "in house" but I am sure your guys will figure it out.

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    24 Oct 2009 02:18 PM
    Posted By The SS Tech Guy on 24 Oct 2009 07:59 AM

    Okay, do any of you remember the Corian shower pans made by DuPont? How about the Corian floor tiles?

    Anyway, floors are rated on the coefficient of friction. When tested, Corian was LESS slippery than ceramic tile but there were still problems. The solution? The grout joints! No, do not cut the shower pan into little parts. But you can route a very shallow design into the base like a sink drain board. The design lets your toes and the bottom of your feet grab hold. Kind of the same as those dolphins somebody else mentioned but this will sure look better. If you are really good, you can slope the design to help the pan drain as well.

    Karl, not sure if just anybody could do this "in house" but I am sure your guys will figure it out.


    Bill:

    I do remember the DuPont floor tile training that I attended, taught by Tony Bacillio. Epoxy mastic and grout were required, if memory serves correctly. Tony had no problem with slipperiness.

    I hope that meets my "good resource hound" criteria.

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    24 Oct 2009 09:38 PM

    And if I remember correctly Bill took a bunch of the Corian floor tiles and thermoformed them into dinner plates.

    See, I was paying attention in class.

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    25 Oct 2009 03:04 PM

    Very good Norm!

    Now for extra credit...
    What 2 colors did I use?
    What was the original use of the plates?
    What did I use for the form to make them?
    What have I done with some of the extra plates?

    Joe,

    For your extra credit questions...

    What kind of epoxy?
    What brand?
    Where were you "allowed" to use the tiles and have warranty coverage?

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    25 Oct 2009 04:17 PM
    Posted By The SS Tech Guy on 25 Oct 2009 10:04 AM

    Very good Norm!

    Now for extra credit...
    What 2 colors did I use?
    What was the original use of the plates?
    What did I use for the form to make them?
    What have I done with some of the extra plates?

    Joe,

    For your extra credit questions...

    What kind of epoxy?
    What brand?
    Where were you "allowed" to use the tiles and have warranty coverage?


    NO NO nO Bill.... Norm cannot answer that. He cannot break the code of : What Happens In Vegas, Stays in Vegas!    If he answers that, he will have to tell what else he heard or saw there.....  LOL!!
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    25 Oct 2009 06:53 PM
    Well, in THAT case - Do tell, Norm, Do Tell!
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