Andy Graves
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| 25 Nov 2008 05:28 AM |
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At the StoneExpo, I visited the Integra booth and they were introducing a new metal glue gun for the 250ml two part epoxy. I ordered a couple, tried them out and my entire shop likes them a lot. The main thing is they don't seem to squeeze out glue when you set the gun down.  Chad just sent out an email with a pretty good deal. Introductory pricing is $79 each or $59 each when you buy 3 or
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If you are interested, contact Chad@integra-adhesives.com
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Mike Gladstone
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| 25 Nov 2008 11:59 PM |
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Andy, just ordered 3 for the shop. At that price I couldn't pass it up. If it lasts anywhere as long as my caulk guns I'll be retired before I have to buy anymore. |
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Andy Graves
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| 26 Nov 2008 01:43 AM |
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I hear ya Mike. These guns are solid and hopefully, built to last.
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Chino Haynes
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| 28 Nov 2008 08:25 PM |
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DO THEY HAVE FOR 470ml (Corian Bulk Adhesive)???? |
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Dani Homrich
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| 29 Nov 2008 12:28 AM |
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Chino, I have the Cox gun for the 470ml for $115 and the new Cox 250ml 18 to 1 thrust for $79 These guns are made in England unlike the Newborn which is made in China  |
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Andy Graves
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| 29 Nov 2008 02:23 AM |
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Hi Dani,
I used to have one of those COX guns and they are not the same as the new INTEGRA gun. The new Integra gun is the best gun I have used so far. The rate at which the glue comes out is good without the leaking after the gun is set down. Not to mention the price is excellent especially when you purchase three.
Chino,
I don't think Integra has a 470 gun. 99% of all manufacturers use the 250 size which is much more economical for the average fabricator.
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Eli Polite
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| 30 Nov 2008 03:56 AM |
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i have the red ones pictured above as well as some green ones and the grey ones that are like $250 we also have the nematic ones we got an entire 50 gallon drum of them at an auction and we have been selling them on e bay if any one needs a gun let me know we have the 250 ml guns and the larger ones as well |
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Eli Polite
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| 30 Nov 2008 03:57 AM |
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we probably have close to 100 guns for a 4 man shop thats a little much |
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Mike Gladstone
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| 21 Dec 2008 05:58 PM |
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I finnally got around to using the new Integra gun and it works as Andy described, I will agree that it the best 250ML gun that I have used. Definately worth getting one or two or three. |
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Chad Thomas
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| 22 Dec 2008 09:02 PM |
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Glad you like them Andy and Mike. They have a special feature that makes them outperform the others.
We don't have the 470 gun as our cartridges are 250ml.
The red dispensers (sold by Dani Designs, Specialty Tools etc) are not recommended for use with Integra products- we stopped selling them quite some time ago due to performance issues. The new Integra dispenser is our design-not Newborn's- and is only available from Integra Adhesives.
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Norm Walters
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| 22 Dec 2008 10:18 PM |
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Chad, when you say red dispensers, are you talking about the Cox guns? |
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Ray Aleksic
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| 22 Dec 2008 10:31 PM |
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Hi Norm,
Chad is in a meeting. There are a few Red Dispensers on the market, we do not recommend using them on our product. Yes Cox is one of them.
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Dani Homrich
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| 28 Dec 2008 09:23 PM |
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Posted By Andy on 28 Nov 2008 09:23 PM
Hi Dani,
The rate at which the glue comes out is good without the leaking after the gun is set down.
Andy,
Leaking
is not caused by the gun if the gun is properly maintained keeping all the push
rails in aliment so they don’t bind when they are push forward and the operator
uses the thumb release to release the back pressure on the cartridge. The
leaking is caused by the filling process. Air bubbles get trapped in the
adhesive when it is filled, when you squeeze out adhesive you compress this trapped
air. The cartridge plunger has enough resistance from a tight fit that it doesn’t
back off like the plunger when the thumb release is pushed. This compress air
will cause the cartridge to leak until the pressure in the cartridge is equal
to the barometric pressure. In hotter temp. this leaking will be greater
because the adhesive is thinner and is easier for the trapped air to push the
glue out. This also can be a very bad thing, because the adhesive is much thinner
and larger in volume it tends to seep into the glue tip without any catalyst,
because the air pressure in the catalyst side is not strong enough to push the catalyst
also, too thick. Now you have a tip with raw adhesive and no catalyst causing
soft spots and spots that do not set up. I find the thicker mixes of adhesive have
much less drip, the trapped air is unable to keep the adhesive flowing. The
only solution to this problem is for the adhesive filling stations to be
improved so the cartridges are filled under a vacuum thus eliminating the trapper
air.
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Tom M
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| 28 Dec 2008 11:01 PM |
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You know, there's incomprehensible posts that confuse you in a bad way.
"Radiation and Granite"
I rest my case.
There are, however, many incomprehensible posts which are very good, in their confusion.
The above is one of those.
Reader's Digest version: "Just trying to understand what Dani wrote scares me enough to watch what the frig I use. And don't be stupid about it."
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| 29 Dec 2008 12:16 AM |
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Posted By Tom M on 28 Dec 2008 06:01 PM
You know, there's incomprehensible posts that confuse you in a bad way.
"Radiation and Granite"
I rest my case.
There are, however, many incomprehensible posts which are very good, in their confusion.
The above is one of those.
Reader's Digest version: "Just trying to understand what Dani wrote scares me enough to watch what the frig I use. And don't be stupid about it."
Probably good advice. Tom... are you sure you are not sipping a little holiday cherr...i mean chree uh.. cheer... hiccup.... I think what he meant was this. It is kinda like when you go to Walmart and buy one of those $3 blue caulking guns, and the $1 tube of caulk. You run the bead, sit it down, and notice that it will continue to spurt out an amount equal to 100% of what you applied... all over where you laid it down. On the other hand, if you buy the $15 gun, place the same $1 tube of caulk in it, run the bead, set it down -- nothing happens.. the caulk stays in the tube. I think what Dani meant was it does not apply to SS adhesive guns . Not sure where the barometric pressure falls in to play other than making my joints ache when it starts falling. |
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Tom M
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| 29 Dec 2008 01:29 AM |
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You know what I'd do?
I'd ask someone hear and get pretty much what they say to. That's the value of this place.
And I'm not as thunk as you drink I am. |
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Andy Graves
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| 29 Dec 2008 04:56 AM |
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Dani,
You may very well be on to something. Al I know is that since I started using the new Integra guns we don't have any glue leaking anywhere. So whatever the gurus at Integra did to solve the leaking problem is working for me.
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KCWOOD
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| 29 Dec 2008 12:24 PM |
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The way I read what Dani wrote, it is not the gun at all, it is the way the adhesive tube was filled... humm
Tom... I'll drink to that.... Ithink |
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| 29 Dec 2008 09:33 PM |
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Guys:
Dani has a standing offer from me to proofread and edit his more technical posts before submission. Unfortunately, he didn't take up my offer this time.
When I met Dano at the first solid surface show, I determined that he was either a lunatic or a genius. My opinion has not changed.
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Tom M
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| 29 Dec 2008 10:14 PM |
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Joe,
Yeah, that's about how I felt when I first met him too many years ago.
I kind of like the lunatic genius combo.
All I know is he has never, to my knowledge, steered me wrong. |
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