Well the regional manager said there is a licensing issue..these shops bought the rights by promising a quota as long as Icestone will not sell directly to fabricators...these distributors are fabricators...I dont mind if the local distributor makes a couple bux..but 85 % and its not his fault thats the agrement he hasta follow...its cheaper for me to bootleg through one of my friends in georgia...I can get double the slabs from there than a few miles awy...but im not into that..I was just embarrassed when a customer wanted the jobs done and was asked if can do better than edit a square...I looked down at my list saw edit bux a square and said I can do it much cheaper...they didnt tell me who gave them that quote either...so then when I checked for availablity

this is how I found all this out....they hafta sell it to me for the edit fabbed, i hafta template and install still...so I guess I couldnt beat their price after all...so Icetsone samples might get crunched up into my next Inlay design

all in all Icestone is a nice product, but the Florida business model is lame

other materials that have certification I understand if they dont sell until you get certified..but they havent got any...so glad they still have all the other Glass brands , there are still 8 other recyclked brands i can sell..

I agree, Jon. Greenie is da man!
They are fools. Fools and charlatans, I say!

We are bidding a large commercial job with Ice Stone now. We bid one a few months ago, but we were foolish enough not to include a standard quartz price with it. Funny us, we thought material choice was actually important. The job went quartz once they got the Ice Stone bids in and the company that gave them the quartz price was awarded the sub job.

Lesson learned.

Hey Jon,

It looked like my Hawks were going to beat your Pats last week, but once again it was a tease. The European Market is going well, it is showing the same signs that the USA market showed 2 years ago though.

If we are to complete a test I will need some samples if possible. We have 4" samples but this will not be large enough for a lamination/edge treatment test. Does anyone have any samples that could be sent to us for a test?

Regards Ray

Tom...thats what im getting at people that want Icestone will definetly choose Quartz..its half the price and doesnt need the sealing.let alone most quartz now has the Greengaurd certification and NSF ratings anyway

Jon...I have difficulty telling them that...so i am going to send them an offer Or I'll set their feet in some Concrete Icestone shoes and tro them to da fishes

Posted By Raymond Aleksic on 11 Dec 2008 10:54 AM
Hey Jon,

It looked like my Hawks were going to beat your Pats last week, but once again it was a tease. The European Market is going well, it is showing the same signs that the USA market showed 2 years ago though.

If we are to complete a test I will need some samples if possible. We have 4" samples but this will not be large enough for a lamination/edge treatment test. Does anyone have any samples that could be sent to us for a test?

Regards Ray

What samples do you need Ray,  IceStone or the PaperStone?

Just the Eco-Top for lamination

Posted By Raymond Aleksic on 11 Dec 2008 03:46 PM
Just the Eco-Top for lamination

Hey Ray, I don't have any material to send of the EcoTop.  I wish I had more samples, but I only have the one box and a piece of material for the countertop.  I can send you material if there is any left, but it is just that one color.