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Dishwasher Clips on Granite Tops
Last Post 16 Jul 2010 11:06 PM by Kowboy. 43 Replies.
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16 Jul 2010 02:11 PM
Posted By William Wolle on 15 Jul 2010 09:16 PM
As much as this pains me and given that I do not want to get between the three of you on this (can I even get between three?) -

The dishwasher being recessed behind the face of the cabinets will allow steam from the dishwasher to escape (when the door is opened) into the cavity hastening the demise of the cabinets. (not your cabinets Kelsey, just the cheaper stuff that is out there, like in my house)

Just sayin'

Good grief Bill... you sound like...  na... won't say it.  Noone has ever implied a dishwasher be set behind a face frame... hell on a laminate top the clips would be behind the lip.
If you set the dishwasher out too far which will show the edge of the tub, instead of being hidden by the face frame, then you have to tell the customer something that the manufacturer never had imagined. 

Can you imagine reading this: If the installer has postioned the dishwasher past the face frame and the white edge is visible behind the door trim, then take a magic marker and color in the visible edge.

Joe, not sure where solid surface came into the conversation,  but I'm not sure what installation instructions you are referring to.  Any time I have called a manufacturer, they tell me do what i think will work. My 28 yr business reputation preceeds me. Maybe business owners have a different set of rules than non-business owners...  does your fab manuals say "Student Edition"

Just having fun with ya Joe.... 


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16 Jul 2010 04:56 PM
Posted By Kelsey Crisp on 16 Jul 2010 08:11 AM
Posted By William Wolle on 15 Jul 2010 09:16 PM
As much as this pains me and given that I do not want to get between the three of you on this (can I even get between three?) -

The dishwasher being recessed behind the face of the cabinets will allow steam from the dishwasher to escape (when the door is opened) into the cavity hastening the demise of the cabinets. (not your cabinets Kelsey, just the cheaper stuff that is out there, like in my house)

Just sayin'

Good grief Bill... you sound like...  na... won't say it.  Noone has ever implied a dishwasher be set behind a face frame... hell on a laminate top the clips would be behind the lip.
If you set the dishwasher out too far which will show the edge of the tub, instead of being hidden by the face frame, then you have to tell the customer something that the manufacturer never had imagined. 

Can you imagine reading this: If the installer has postioned the dishwasher past the face frame and the white edge is visible behind the door trim, then take a magic marker and color in the visible edge.

Joe, not sure where solid surface came into the conversation,  but I'm not sure what installation instructions you are referring to.  Any time I have called a manufacturer, they tell me do what i think will work. My 28 yr business reputation preceeds me. Maybe business owners have a different set of rules than non-business owners...  does your fab manuals say "Student Edition"

Just having fun with ya Joe.... 



Kelsey:

The subject at hand is manufacturer's installation instructions. I brought it up in my original post and you expressed a distain for following same. Under the same subject, I asked you if you showed as much disregard for solid surface manufacturer's instructions as you do for those of dishwashers. Yes, it's on topic. Yes, it is relevant. Yes, it remains unanswered.

Modern quality dishwashers have a black gasket to take up any space between the cabinet faces and dishwasher tub. The antique plastic-tubbed piece of junk dishwasher I reset does not. I make no apologies for offering cheap and fast topical tricks to "fix" cheap dishwashers.

Your attempt to paint yourself as a business owner and me as not is not only not factual, it is illogical. Ad hominem circumstantial to be specific.

The "Student Edition" remark was clever and I got a kick out of it.

Joe
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16 Jul 2010 09:34 PM
Joe... I bet we could have a lot of fun at a bar doing tequila shots... of course we might need a referee after a while...   GiddyUp!!
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16 Jul 2010 11:06 PM
Posted By Kelsey Crisp on 16 Jul 2010 03:34 PM
Joe... I bet we could have a lot of fun at a bar doing tequila shots... of course we might need a referee after a while...   GiddyUp!!
Kelsey:

Anytime, my man, anytime.

Joe

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