Wags
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| 31 Jan 2007 01:56 AM |
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They are a force to be dealt with. Not everyone will purchase from Home Depot or CTI. But they are coming to a town near you so.. learn about them and position yourself to compete. They plan to not only do production builders, but Home Depots work and they are going to go after commercial work. They pay well, have great bennies and will try and steal every good fabricator they can get. I want to know everyone in my market and all of their strengths and weakness's. Good shops will survive.
On a similar note. I saw an help wanted ad for "Home Solutions by Home Depot" They wanted "proven closers" in the home remodeling industry. Pay was $100,000 +. I have no idea what this is but know several that have applied so when I find out will be happy to post this new "venture". When you have several BILLION a quarter you can do alot ! CTI here is working 24 /7 on their granite shop and double shifts on the solid surface side. And thats only in production builders. |
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Joe Corlett
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| 31 Jan 2007 02:06 AM |
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[QUOTE]FEDSAWDAVE wrote
I wouldn't say it's politically incorrect, I'd just say it's dancin with the devil ![/QUOTE]
Dave,
Robert Oxley, Executive Vice President of ISSFA, says HD "pays big money" for training from ISSFA. Time for a new dance partner?
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Tom M
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| 31 Jan 2007 04:13 AM |
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[QUOTE] Wags wrote
This may be politically incorrect, but you may want to look into CTI. They are home depots fabrication centers. I believe they have about 10 or 12 presently, but are looking into setting many more up. They offer full benefits, lots of potential for growth and the backing of a huge company.
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Umm... Wags...
Are you saying that Home Depot is building up the fabricators to take the place of the existing freelancers? Or is this limited to areas where fabs are scarce?
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Wags
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| 31 Jan 2007 11:01 PM |
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The "plan" is to do it nationwide....when is another story.. Its currently being done in California that I personally know. Rumor has it it will spread to Arizona this year sometime. The rumors here (AZ) is that they will set up a different shop then they are using for the production builders. It may or may not remain under the CTI banner. I was also told they want to get into commercial work in the future. They are currently doing production builders. I should add that the lowest cost producer in the country for Home Depot is located here in AZ. He is also has some of the highest customer satisfaction scores of any Depot fabricator... does it make sense? Guess to them it does. |
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Tom M
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| 31 Jan 2007 11:19 PM |
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There is a downside to a free market.
Wags, I don't know how much you know about this Home Cnter business, but have you ever heard of a reason why Home Depot doesn't pay sales tax on countertops? I don't even think they pay a value added tax.
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Jon Olson
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| 01 Feb 2007 01:55 AM |
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How are those shops doing. Putting out good product? |
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Joe Corlett
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| 01 Feb 2007 02:27 AM |
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[QUOTE] Jon wrote
How are those shops doing. Putting out good product?
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Their performance had better exceed that of HD's first incantation, the Expo fabrication centers. HD is still paying for replacements from this misadventure. Maybee they'll get it right this time.
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Andy Graves
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| 01 Feb 2007 06:17 AM |
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You don't have to pay taxes on "custom", "installed" items. |
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Rob Parker
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| 01 Feb 2007 11:50 AM |
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Wags, I was offerd a job with HD in AZ to run the granite shop.....and declined. Also have had the offer here too. A couple of the big builders here offered to start thier own shops and have me run them. I used to do most of the home depots and lowes around here, I know how they deal with thier customers....I think Ill pass on their offer.
On another note I thank you all for your help..I am in talks with someone right now about relocating. |
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Tom M
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| 01 Feb 2007 12:37 PM |
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You don't have to pay taxes on "custom", "installed" items.
Is that a California thing?
Because we have to charge here in Ct. But HD does not.
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Shane Barker
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| 01 Feb 2007 05:36 PM |
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California doesn’t have a clue of how we are suppose to charge sales tax. Every shop I talk to does it different. We charge sales tax on everything but the install, that includes all labor done in the shop. If someone comes in with some laminate tops that need to be cut we charge tax on that too. This is all based on what the franchise tax board told me, but as I said they really don’t have a clue. I know we charge more sales tax than we should but as long as we pass it on to them they don’t care.
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FEDSAWDAVE
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| 02 Feb 2007 12:18 AM |
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Neither does Florida, Shane. All of a sudden, I have Closet Companies calling and telling me: "Tax me on everything." Screws, glue, anchors, caulking etc.... These are things that go out with the finished product, therefore not taxable with a re-sale certificate but they better be taxing the end user. But, some of them have not been doing that. Along comes the Fla Department of Revenue and Mr. audit starts. Problem is, you can call 10 revenue agents and get 8 differant methods as to taxation.
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Norm Walters
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| 02 Feb 2007 01:03 AM |
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Here's one for you, I got a letter from the state dept of revenue saying that they monitor internet activity as far as out of state purchases go. Evidently if you buy something out of state and have it shipped to you, you have to pay "your" state tax on it. So now I buy everything from Dave, he taxes me, and I'm done. |
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FEDSAWDAVE
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| 02 Feb 2007 01:30 AM |
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Norm, certain states have agreements as to across state line taxation. Most don't. If you order from our web sites, there is no tax for out of state shipments. However, if you call in an order and say I ship it to you direct fopm a manufacture in New Jersey to Pennsylvania, they have some type of agreement and I must charge tax.
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Andy Graves
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| 02 Feb 2007 06:53 AM |
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Shane,
We got the same thing going here. We have been doing it the same for 20 years, so I guess we will stick with it. I think think there is actually conflicting information about the taxation of custom items, installed. Don't know the exact info though. |
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