QUOTES FROM FEDSAWDAVE

“No Dani, you sell PVC sprinkler parts formed in to clamps that I've NEVER seen in ANY shop I've been in.”                 

“Quite frankly, I don't care how many seminars you've taught.

Wow, insulting an innovative industry leader 2 days before Christmas?

I believe the picture above just shows what one mans innovation has done for the Solid Surface industry. It really saddens me when a salesman insults another product or especially a person.

 I'm really sorry you feel that way Dave.

KC

 

Hi Guys, While things got a little spirited here in this thread, I think we all recognize that there is more than one way to skin a cat, and as Andy has pointed out, there are different niches within our markets that require different approaches. For example, Dani is no doubt the Sanding Guru, and has spent more time than anyone else I know looking into the fine points of technique and product. He markets to a discerning and demanding customer base. On the other hand, our business serves customers who provide multi-family housing for government projects, where a "perfect" job for them is one that goes in fast and under budget (read: competitive bid projects.) Their tenants will turn over every two years, and they really just want something that will last. I think what we've been reading is really one viewpoint from a custom fabricator's point of view vs. a supplier who has a range of customers who serve all different types of niches. Neither Dani nor Dave is at the helm of an evil empire. I have learned much from Dani about finishing, and I have absolutely benefited from Dave's excellent customer service, flying monkeys notwithstanding. On this Christmas Eve, I'd like to thank All Of You for giving me something interesting to read, and a place to belong. Dani, thanks for sharing your knowledge. Dave, thanks for helping me out when I was in a bind. Everyone else, thanks for your continued camaraderie.

A little spirited is an understatement.

Does everyone remember back in the day,

Respect was something given, not taken away.

Public ridicule was saved for but a few,

Taking the higher ground is how I was raised, how about you?

Living in an age where rudeness prevails,

Will result in a society that fails.

My father would surely roll over in his grave,

If he saw how "Men" are beginning to behave.

 

Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.

Nice, Norm, Very Nice!!

Dani and Dave,

Let me be perfectly clear here.  This is not a forum for you two to have a pissing contest.  Because you are vendors you will be judge to a higher standard than other members.  DISRESPECT will not be tolerated and is not doing either of you any good.

I like both of you and respect what you offer to us fabricators.  Don't let your disagreement cloud your judgement when you decide to post.  Take a step back and reevaluate if this is really beneficial to the fabricators that read this board.

Thanks for your participation and Merry Christmas.

Andy

What Andy said

 

Chris

How many "patents do I hold" Joe? None, but thanks for asking. Patents aren't worth a hill of beans if you don't make money on them.

I'm so glad you brought up the Dupont sanding methods. I remember back in the day when the companies representing Duponts solid surface tried to strong arm fabricators in to using NOTHING but what said distributor offered as "methods". Buy this or we won't sell you the sheet goods. Do it this way or we'll tell the big brother on you. Funny thing happened on the way to the kitchen...other solid surface products were introduced. Differant methods, differant procedures. It's called evolving Joe.

But, thanks for being ever condescending. BTW, glad you never "heard of me". Quite frankly, I've never "heard of you".

Uh, Dave, most of us consider Joe to be a little brutal at times, but usually correct.   For Joe, he was kinda gentle with you, consider it a compliment.  Actually, all three of you share a few characteristics, bluntness, an inability to suffer fools, and ambition.   Probally why there is friction........

Reminds me of a good story.  Once  I walked into a bar a little earlier than normal, wanted to practice on the tables a little before the pool tournament.  Kinda single minded about it, so I breezed by four people standing near the door without really looking, three women, one guy friend of mine.  Two of the women were dance partners, the other one, well, we couldn't stand each other.  She was a stuck up bitch and I reminded her of it often.

So, three of the four start griping about my behaviour,  "thanks for saying  hi, Al", that kind of stuff.  I just made a U-turn, gave the  stuck up bitch a big hug  and told the others that the only way I knew how to deal with them  was to say hello to the only one that wasn't whining and bitching.

Dani, Dave, enough.  No profit in this.  Both of you are well respected and well liked.  Don't throw that away by asking any of us to  choose sides.  When we step in and defend someone being attacked, don't take offense, we all will do the same for both of you.  If you guys want to thump on each other, do it like the congressmen do and be nice about it.  Call each other "esteemed colleges", use some big words like "dissimulator" or "cozener", perhaps "dissolute"  or "effete" would be usefull if not accurate.  First one to get pissed, loses.

Andy, how about  we pretend none of this happened and you clean this thread up a little, please.

Dave:

At the risk of readers thinking I'm beating this to death, I cannot let your misquoting of me stand uncorrected:

[QUOTE]FEDSAWDAVE wrote
BTW, glad you never "heard of me". Quite frankly, I've never "heard of you".[/QUOTE]

In fact, what I said was: "You seem like a nice enough guy Dave, but you appear to be a relative newcomer..."

You can avoid making this mistake again by using the board's quote thingy and by, as I've previously mentioned, reading and comprehending the posts to which you are responding.

I meant what I said, Dave. You do seem like a nice enough guy. I regret that you interpreted my remark as "condesention". While I will not let what needs to be said go unspoken, I admit struggling with the tone of those rebuttals and appreciate having it brought to my attention. I would love to assure you it won't happen again, but I would be lying.

We're both going to the show, Dave. I'll look you up and buy you a drink. Hopefully, we can hear of each other in person.

Sincerely,

Joe Corlett

 

 

And, I'll accept the drink Joe...then buy you 2.

Great,

  Dave and Joe in a drinking contest

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