Seth Emery
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| 15 Nov 2006 11:37 PM |
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Tom,
Thanks for the tips about the R and Z axes. 80"x150" table - nice. Ours is 60"x145". Do you find the extra width useful? I think it would be most useful for reintroducing large tops to rout the edge profile and also for doubling-up 36" wide sheets.
I just keep the reference border on Layer 0 all of the time. Layer 0 has no machining knowledge associated with it the way we have Router-CIM set up. I place the sheet representation with the lower-left corner at 0,0,0. I only pick the origin if I am programming using multiple files. Do you do something similar?
Shane,
If I remember correctly, C is the axis to control aggregates on our KOMO also. Thanks for getting me up to speed. Do you have a saw spindle? That is sweet for cutting MDF strips and for scoring patterns on full-height backsplash.
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Shane Barker
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| 15 Nov 2006 11:51 PM |
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Seth,
I have not invested in any aggregates yet, those things get really pricy. I had the forth axis thrown into the deal when I bought the machine as well as the drilling block. The drilling block has come in handy on doing some garage cabinets but I haven’t used the C axis yet.
So you use the saw to put the grout marks in the backsplashes? I was going to ask what tool you use because we are going to do that for my installer’s mother-in-laws house and we have never tried it yet. I was thinking of a 1/8” ball nose but I didn’t know how that would look.
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Tom M
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| 16 Nov 2006 12:00 AM |
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Seth,
Do you find the extra width useful?
Dang straight. We preglue our seam, making sure to cover the build up, etc. in the over-all sheet. We then cut the top, build up, etc. out of the whole deal. It allows us to auto-stagger the build-up joints, and it makes for a quicker fit when gluing the build up. The 80" width allows for a top that, if too much longer on an "L", might not fit through a standard doorway. We bought it before the hockey puck depth setting thingamabob, but added that later, as well as a newer cutting head with an air controlled quick release.
If I am doing multiple insertion routes (duffrent color inlays, etc.), I always kept the outside border so I could have the same start point. I never thought about level "0". I'll have to pick your brain on that later.
What are you and Shane refering to when he says "grout marks in the backsplashes"?
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| 16 Nov 2006 12:01 AM |
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Here is a command has helped me out a lot. I used go through rotating tops many times to insert all of the sinks, appliances, etc. parallel to the finished edges, like on L-shaped tops where the inside corner is not truly square. Then, I found out more about the UCS. Type in UCS->New->OBject and click on the line that you want the object that you are creating or inserting to be parallel to. If you draw a rectangle (or whatever), you can move it perpendiclar or parallel to whatever object that you clicked on. Just type in UCS->World to get back to "normal".
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| 16 Nov 2006 12:37 AM |
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Shane,
That's cool that you were able to get the drill block. I used to work for a furniture manufacturer that had multiple Biesse point-to-point machines with drill blocks. That makes drilling 32mm spaced holes very fast since you can drill several simultaneously. Are you able to drill horizontally also?
We sometimes use the saw and sometimes use a v-grooving tool to cut/rout the scoring pattern. There is a beading pattern that we can only do with the saw. I don't know how cutting with the 1/8" ball nose would look, but the v-groove tool leaves a nice, well-defined line.
Tom,
That is really cool how you cut out the tops in one piece by pre-seaming. I imagine the "hockey puck depth setting thingamabob" is something similar to a tool touch-off probe. We don't have one. Sounds pretty cool though.
If you go here: http://http://www.hhross.com/photog...m and scroll about 3/4 of the way down the page, there is an example of the "grout marks in the backsplashes" in, correct me if I'm wrong, Everest with Mediterranean inlays.
Have a nice evening,
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| 16 Nov 2006 12:47 AM |
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Seth,
All I get is a redirect to some http protocal page.
*sniff*
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| 16 Nov 2006 12:51 AM |
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Tom,
I'll try this again: Click here.
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| 16 Nov 2006 01:03 AM |
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Seth,
Thanks, that one worked fine.
Oh, that's what you mean. I thought it was some kind of prep route for a better seal with the caulk.
Nice work. I'd love to see some inlays spec'd in this area. We'd kick butt.
Tom
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| 16 Nov 2006 01:29 AM |
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Thanks Tom. I guess the popular options vary by location. We do usually two or three inlays a month. Mory seems to do plenty more than that. His inlays are extraordinary. Judging by the pictures on your website, scalloped splashes and edges are common in your area. We have done a few jobs with those features, but it is pretty uncommon here. By the way, nice website and work. I particularly like the Architect's Corner page.
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| 16 Nov 2006 01:52 AM |
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Seth,
That was a nice compliment, thank you. I designed it myself, so the simple look was more of a necessity than a choice, but I think it works.
There should be at least one pic of my countertop in my kitchen (okay, the Mrs' kitchen). It should show a Cameo White deck with a malachite inlay and Sequoia border. It's a small area, but it should be there somewhere.
It needs an update bad, though. I was also peeved, because everycontractor does not use front page extensions, so some forms and stuff does not work.
Tom
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| 17 Nov 2006 08:33 PM |
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Tom,
The site doesn't look all that simple to me. If you mean that it doesn't have all kinds of graphics everywhere, that just slows down loading time and gets annoying anyways. Google has a "simple" site, yet it is very popular. Nice job on your wife's top. I haven't seen too many jobs with different color stripes in the splash. I found the picture under Residential->Solid surface products. You have user-entry forms on your site. That is definitely not an amateur pratice. I can see you put a lot of time into learning how to do this, which is really cool. It's great that you and your company have embraced technology with the website and the CNC. I'm not familiar with te details of everycontractor, but I have done some HTML programming. If you ever get stuck on anything, I'm no expert, but we might be able to stick our heads together and get through it.
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| 17 Nov 2006 10:36 PM |
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Seth,
Thanks again.
I used a Front Page templaet, then altered things a bit so it didn't look so "front-page templaty".
The forms don't work, though. They need the front page extensions, which everycontractor doesn't use.
I may just take you up on that offer, someday soon. I will say this, though, I am glad I duplictaed pages that get used more then once, so my return buttons didn't get a jammed together.
Tom
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Seth Emery
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| 19 Nov 2006 12:47 AM |
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Tom,
That's too bad the Front Page extensions don't work. Maybe when you update things, you can get a different host that does support them. Glad you were able to duplicate pages and keep things spaced evenly. Spacing is important.
Here is another command that I use everyday. This is one of the first new commands that I learned shortly after starting work at H.H. Ross, and it has been a huge time-saver. The command is "bpoly". I use it mostly for creating multiple polylines from single shapes. Ex. Breaking apart build-ups and countertops. You just add the seam line, type in "bpoly", then click "pick points". After that, you pick a point inside each section of the object that you want to be a separate polyline. One thing that I have noticed, any part of the object that you want to turn into a separate polyline must be in view before you start the command, otherwise you will get an error. Before learning this, I would've traced each section with a polyline, which is basically what this does automatically.
Have a nice evening,
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| 19 Nov 2006 04:34 AM |
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Sounds like a short cut. I always have to reteach myself the proper offset commands and such. My partner does most of the drawing and toolpathing, so I don't get much practice.
Tom
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