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| 12 Dec 2008 02:34 PM |
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Tom,
No problem, I was just amazed at how fast my talking about the Arch. Kit shut down the conversation.  |
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| 13 Dec 2008 07:45 AM |
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Bill for many here I don't think they are members of ISSFA so they more than likely do not have the kit.
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| 13 Dec 2008 10:21 AM |
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Bill
On most architectual jobs, they have no clue who will be doing the fabricating. Typically they design and specify the project and it goes out to bid to GC's. Those GC's may get bids from a number of subs in each catagory. Hence, I really believe, unless its an architect that also acts as GC, better to have the material rep do the A & D presentations. I did 100's of them while I worked for a distributor and loved doing them. I still do a few but only if requested. Avonite had a good spec kit and I always made up some samples of my own. Many times just a book of photos of unique applications will help expand the designers minds as to the possibility of a material.
I agree we need more work at the A & D level to educate and inform them on the merits of the product. As I mentioned elsewhere, I recently was called in by a very large Architectual firm to help them choose the type of products for different applications for a large project. I recommended laminte, Solid Surface and Quartz for different applications. I introduced them to Lumistone which really blew their minds. Even tho I am currently selling quartz and stone, I don't feel there is any one product that is right for every application. What did I get in return for my efforts? They always let me know when a project is going out to bid and who the GC's are that are bidding on it. That's the most I can ask for. |
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| 13 Dec 2008 10:43 AM |
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Posted By The SS Tech Guy on 12 Dec 2008 02:34 PM
Tom,
No problem, I was just amazed at how fast my talking about the Arch. Kit shut down the conversation. Bill: You are mistaking correlation for causation. Readers here are a fickle bunch. My self-satirical post "I Won't Be Blackmailed" got over a thousand views in a few days. We've managed to wring almost four thousand views out of "Ten Commandments" and "Repairing Previous Repairs" got 1,377 views in a few weeks. I was so hoping for a review of my English final in "My English Papers" (click attachment), but so far no takers. The Fabnet is just like Forrest Gump says, "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you'll get. Don't be too thin-skinned, just toss another bone out there and see what happens, you can never tell. Joe |
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| 13 Dec 2008 10:55 AM |
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Wags ISSFA submitted an up- date to the AWI. Currently there book only had a small paragraph talking about SS. This backs up your thought about Millwork shops. Yes they need more info . Hopefully the up-date which contains allot more info will help. |
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| 14 Dec 2008 08:30 AM |
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Joe,
I didn't take it personally or being thin skinned, I was just intrigued (sp) that it stopped the conversation for awhile.
Jon,
Remember the updated AWI manual is probably still at least 18 months away if not more. Use the submittal documents available to show to architects and millworks until the book comes out. The documents are copy writted by ISSFA but I do not think that would stop anyone from giving it to a friend?  Also, there were alot of thise kits given out at Devens AND the were mailed with about 800 copies of the ISSFA magazine that went out in October.
Wags,
I agree, giving a presentation to an architect must be generic. The benefit is what you said, they call you for info and "first shot" at jobs, you have made a friend and business contact. That is good stuff! The kit is not as good as what Jon and Grant do and have produced, but it is better than nothing. Even if 50% of the fabricators talk to only one architect in the next 4 months, that is many times more exposure than all the manufacturers and distributors together will probably do. What is to lose! |
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| 24 Dec 2008 10:23 AM |
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Posted By The SS Tech Guy
Even if 50% of the fabricators talk to only one architect in the next 4 months, that is many times more exposure than all the manufacturers and distributors together will probably do. What is to lose! Very good poiny Bill |
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| 01 Jan 2009 10:53 AM |
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Here's another cabinet we just built using Corian. (Medical application). This is one of 6 cabinets for the Project. It's going in a VA hospital in Omaha.
Is there any reason a whole Kitchen cant be built and marketed out of SS ? Think of the longevity. It's time has come. Which Kitchen Company will be first?
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| 01 Jan 2009 07:30 PM |
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Outstanding!
Did you follow an architectural design? Looks like it was a well-thought out for the solid surface product. Do you find yourself (gently) advising them that this or that might be a better so-and-so?
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| 02 Jan 2009 01:58 PM |
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Hello Tom. Good question. Yes We had a design that the company we are supplying the cabinets wanted to use. Grant Garcia worked with them to come up with the idea. Your right on point about the gently advising . That's exactly what Grant did. |
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| 02 Jan 2009 08:43 PM |
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Grant seems to be particularly well-suited for that kind of diplomacy.
It really looks nice, Jon. Kudos. |
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