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20 Feb 2008 01:57 PM  

The guy is fast as heck, though.

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20 Feb 2008 08:03 PM  
Tom,
Drew has to take the lawsuit hit if robert plant and Jimmy page decide to come down on him and yes Drew is super fast on his! I'm getting there now that I'm doing it full time, wait till you see the new software, your going to flip at how much faster, and easier it is, I'll have a new unit with me when I come to New England.
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20 Feb 2008 08:11 PM  
Travis,
We will have the new unit in Vegas, I just got to see it and run it today for the first time, all I can say is Holy friggin S**T, it is awsome!!!!!!!!!!! All the commands are listed on the side of the screen so instead of going to "edit"-fillet-sqaure..... you just click on the fillet button and fillet, click on the offset button, set your size and offset, you can grab the drawing and drag it around on the screen like you do in CAD, the zoom works like the PDA or you can use the + or - button and tap the screen to keep zooming in or out, it has bluetooth, wireless, a camera that takes still pics or video, 2 usb ports, sd card slots, mouse ports, printer ports, etc, etc, etc, too much to list here. Once you see this you will never go back to your PDA.
Come see us at the show we will give you the full demo.
See you in vegas!
Gordon Shell, Laser Products Industries, LT-55, LT-55XL, Hilti lasers, and Bridgesaw Line Generators. www.laserproductsus.com, gshell@laserproductsus.com, gshell661@yahoo.com, 616-293-6170
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20 Feb 2008 08:25 PM  
Thanks Gordon. Let me know when you'll be around and I'll try to schedule a templating. Hope you don't mind if it is replacement rather than new, because that's most of my turf.

Travis, you're cracking me up on this thread. You been drinkin'?
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20 Feb 2008 08:56 PM  
Tom,
New or remodel, it all templates the same to me, see you soon.
Going to bed to rest up for Vegas.
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20 Feb 2008 11:28 PM  
I hope you have a good show. You already have a good product.
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25 Feb 2008 10:11 AM  
Tom, Easy to tell if I been drinkin... If I post after 5pm .... welll.....um..

Ok somtimes 4:30 or so.. lol
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25 Feb 2008 10:26 AM  
Travis,
any thoughts on the new lt-55?
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25 Feb 2008 11:16 AM  

New LT-55 tablet revealed at the show!

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25 Feb 2008 01:57 PM  
Gordon, It is really nice. I am definately upgrading.
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22 Mar 2008 09:30 PM  
Dennis,

What did you end up going with? How is it working out?

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25 Mar 2008 04:48 PM  

Seth,

Thanks to the FabNet, we were able to purchase a used Outline Technologies digitizing table. After some rearranging in our shop, and some computer issues, it is up and running great. I actually used your tutorial on LISP commands to create a custom digitize toolbutton in AUTOcad, as to bypass the intellicad software that the previous owners were using. The guy at Outline also sent us a backup copy of the software with the 07 Enhanced software package.

For us, a table was the way to go over the LT55 or Phototop, because our Granite Fabricators are all manual, and our Silestone Fabricators will not fab from a Laser.  Now we can make all our templates the same way, digitize the ones for our solid surface fabrication, and send the others to our stone fabricators.

The cost to us was far less than either the laser or phototop, and in our area, (Seattle,WA - Vancouver,BC) all of the big shops use digitizing tables rather than digital templates. It allows room for growth without having to make sizable investments to have multiple templators.

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25 Mar 2008 05:34 PM  
Dennis,

I'm glad to hear that you're happy with your decision. I'd like to see what's new in the 07 Enhanced software package. My employer's software must be from around 2002. One thing that would be nice is to be able to enter more characters for the filename. Ours only allows eight. I'll have to see if I can find a link to Outline Technologies.

That's cool you were able to use the LISP tutorial in creating the digitize button. What CAM program do you use? Do you nest in AutoCAD? I have some LISP programs that I use for nesting that really help me out.

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26 Mar 2008 11:18 AM  

Would you be willing to share some of your LISP files? And where can I learn more about creating them?

I nest some parts but not all.  Often it is easier for us to cut edge buildup manually than to nest it on the CNC.

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26 Mar 2008 11:19 AM  
We have an AXYZ CNC, and we use the toolpathing software that came with it.
I really wish it was set up to run inside AutoCad like the Komo. It would be nice to only have to use i program instead of 3.
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26 Mar 2008 02:50 PM  
Dennis, If you use acad and toolpath, what nesting software do you use? Autodesk has a nesting plug in you can buy. I downloaded a trial version but couldnt figure it out.
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28 Mar 2008 12:06 PM  

Dennis,

Here are a couple LISP programs that I use frequently:

This one changes a line to Layer - 0, Color - ByLayer, Linetype - Hidden, and Linetype Scale - 10. This is how we represent cabinetry, supports, etc.

(defun c:hi10 ()
 ;define the function
  ; This command changes the selected object's
;**********************************************************
 ;Start of Command Function
 (command   "Change" pause "" "Properties" "layer" "0" "color" "ByLayer" "Ltype" "Hidden" "ltscale" "10" ""
      )        ;End Command
   ;End of Command Function
;**********************************************************
 (princ)
 ;finish cleanly
 ;end of defun

This one lets you to offset an object .3 units and then it changes the new object to Layer - 0 and Color - ByLayer. We use a 1/4" diameter tool to rout 1/2" solid surface, so this helps show where the tool will cut. I used to just offset .3, but the osnaps caused me to offset on the wrong side of the object and I didn't realize it because the line was the same color. This prevents that. It helps if you create your parts for nesting on separate layers with colors other than white. You can just change the .3 on the fifth line to whatever the spacing is that you want to show.

(defun c:opoint3 ()
 ;define the function
 ;**********************************************************
 ;Start of Command Function
(command   "Offset" ".3" pause pause ""
   "Change" "Last" "" "Properties" "layer" "0" "color" "ByLayer" ""   
 )        ;End Command
  
 ;End of Command Function
;**********************************************************
 (princ)
 ;finish cleanly
) ;end of defun

If you created a notes.lsp file like shown in the LISP blog entry, you can just paste these LISP commands in there. I'll post some more commands later. If you need anything, just ask.

  Have a good day,
  Seth

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28 Mar 2008 12:09 PM  
Dennis,

I was just wondering why it is sometimes easier for you to cut out build-ups manually rather than on the CNC? Do they not vacuum well?

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