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11 Jan 2008 10:01 AM  

I'll notify them to join the discussion.

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11 Jan 2008 10:22 AM  

Was just notified that Mike Stephens is no longer with Allen Data graph. Hopefully vipul will chime in and answer questions.

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11 Jan 2008 12:13 PM  

The Global StonePro software works with templating and plotting devices through dxf import and export.  The software allows you to clean a dxf file and use it for estimating through scheduling, inventory control and production management.  

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14 Jan 2008 10:00 AM  
Brad, Yes you have to use the allen plotter for that. I have heard allot of bad things about the allen plotter. A good friend of mine had one. Well actually two or three. Never could get them to cut perfectly square.

I recommned the graphtec machine. Using autocad and the "bo" command I can break a top up in a matter of minutes so the hole nesting thing(that only works somtimes) is not all that important to me.

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16 Jan 2008 04:19 PM  
Travis,

I read your post in another topic area. I am in the same boat you were in. I don't fab my stone but we do fab solid surface and manufacture cultured marble. I need to find the best way possible to utilize my LT-55 for that. I know you eluded to it in your previous post, but could you elaborate on exactly what you did to overcome this? Also, about how much did it cost? Money is a factor this time of year. Thanks!
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16 Jan 2008 11:12 PM  

Tom,

You go on down to Jackson, 

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16 Jan 2008 11:37 PM  

6 1/2 days.

Thank G-d for Chris.

 

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17 Jan 2008 05:31 PM  
Brad, We Fabricate Laminate tops and solid surface. I should mention that I also have a cnc. The lt-55 opened many doors and the cnc well, the doors opened so hard the hinges broke.
Now for stone. I bought a vinyl express q100 42" plotter. I already had the lt-55 but some of my stone fabricators dont build to exact template so i have to cut a template, set the job up in the shop and get it to where it will fit. Sounds like a pain but after a while it's like anything, you get real good at it. I use Autocad to do all of my drawings and the software that came with the vinyl cutter to cut templates. The lt-55 was a great investment and with a plotter (even if you dont have a cnc) it will increase your speed and quality. Technically a plotter is the same as a cnc. The steps I go through to cut a vinyl template are basically the same as when I am going to the cnc. Not sure of the cost of a good plotte but I would probably budget around 4k. If you would like I could send you some cad drawings of what I do to cut a template.
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26 Mar 2008 05:12 PM  

If you have a CNC you don't need a plotter. i have cut plotter media on my CNC. you do need good vaauum. we have found it easier to use .030 HIPS (high impact Styrene) it comes in 4x8 sheets and white. you can sharpie notes or some times i cut .050 dp and engrave on the sheets. roll it up and UPS to fabricator. I use 1/8 bit 20000rpm 450ipm to a depth of .027 and it will pop out easily.

 

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26 Mar 2008 07:20 PM  
George, Thats a pretty cool idea. I never even thought of that. I probably couldnt affrord to tie up my cnc cutting templates but I bet it would be a great solution for a some guys. Then again... maybe it would be a good excuse to buy another cnc :)
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26 Mar 2008 10:17 PM  
You can also get a vinyl cutter for the CNC. You set it in the collet, but don't turn on the spindle. It's a spring loaded diamond beveled tip that attaches the same as a 1/16" bit.
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26 Mar 2008 11:37 PM  
Posted By Tom M on 03/26/2008 10:17 PM
You can also get a vinyl cutter for the CNC. You set it in the collet, but don't turn on the spindle. It's a spring loaded diamond beveled tip that attaches the same as a 1/16" bit.



Do you know how much that is?

Do you have to have a real nice spoilboard?

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27 Mar 2008 08:18 AM  
Andy,
I can't recall the price, but it wasn't much. I can't even remember where I got it from, but I think it is called a diamond draw bit. I emailed you a pic if you want to post it. The thin part before the diamond nib is spring loaded.

You should level your spoilboard before you use this. Good observation.

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04 Apr 2008 08:43 PM  

I got the email you sent and it looks kinda funny.  Will it actually get a good cut on the particle board?  Seems like it would be too soft to get a nice clean line.

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04 Apr 2008 10:37 PM  
It's for vinyl cutting only.
I meant to level the spoilboard prior to using the bit.
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05 Apr 2008 12:33 PM  

Tom,

Can you email the pic of that diamond cutter, that sounds kool.

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05 Apr 2008 04:34 PM  
Andy might be able to post it here. It's a close up of the spring loaded part. The pic page is a hassle for me to work with.

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