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06 Feb 2010 09:08 PM  
Checkout this video and move about 3:30 in the video.  The inventor sticks his finger in the table saw blade and the blade stops without drawing blood.


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07 Feb 2010 05:35 AM  
You know.. the more I watched that, it makes me wonder why that is not a standard item on every saw sold. They come with a guard, so why not this? If this was on every saw, how much extra when they are mass produced..$200???
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07 Feb 2010 10:49 PM  
Does anyone know the cost of the professional Cabinet saw?
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08 Feb 2010 03:51 AM  
Andy, I think a professional cabinet saw is called a CNC.
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08 Feb 2010 04:42 AM  
Andy, I have the 10" model 66 Powermatic. It has been an abosolute workhorse in my shop. Bought it in 1982 and replaced bearing once, that s it.

I believe they are 3-4k depending on the setup. I have the accu-fence.  It is a great fence system.. you do not have to measure at all with it. Whatever the rule says, it cuts +-1/64

There are lots of used ones out there...  Tennessee Machinery in nashville (close to where they are made) gets demos all the time, checks them out, repairs frieght damaged ones, ect and you can save $$$
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09 Feb 2010 01:28 PM  
I,ve seen the hotdog demo before and it was impressive. But I have this natural aversion to sticking any of my body parts into a machine that cuts. Not to say that I haven't done it but it was not because I just wanted to (defective router bit). That shows a man that believes in his product.

Kelsey,
The other saw manufacturers really fought this being forced down thier throats. This is a good invention and will no doubt save a lot of accidents,  but there are a lot of saws and operators that don't have it and are accident free. Which is do to proper training and enforcement of that training. Nobody is permitted to operate any of our power equipment until they are checked out on each piece. This has proved to be invaluable in personal as well as shop safety.

Plus, once they know the hotdog trick your screwed
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09 Feb 2010 01:51 PM  
I've seen the hot dog demo in person also, but why didn't the saw stop when they cut through the steak?
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09 Feb 2010 03:03 PM  
Posted By Wayne on 09 Feb 2010 03:51 PM
I've seen the hot dog demo in person also, but why didn't the saw stop when they cut through the steak?
You know what's in a hotdog? Even the saw knows they're not good for you!
Put a steak and a hotdog in front of me and you'll still have a hotdog to use on the Sawstop
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09 Feb 2010 03:41 PM  
Posted By Wayne on 09 Feb 2010 03:51 PM
I've seen the hot dog demo in person also, but why didn't the saw stop when they cut through the steak?


That was done without the sawstop... just a normal saw.

Mike... do you ever wish you were an Oscar Meyer Weiner?  lol

You know they make 100% all beef ones now.  HotDog, beer... game=
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09 Feb 2010 08:15 PM  
As someone that had an employee cut their hand on a table saw, I agree this should be available on every saw. I, on the otherhand, got my finger ground down on an edgebanding machine. it was EBBAM that caused it.. Error between brain and machine, I stuck it where I shouldn't of stuck it.

It's an amazing invention, been around for a number of years, why every insurance company has not mandated it is beyond me. But I still have a 5 hp unisaw in my garage..so.... don't do as I do.
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09 Feb 2010 09:09 PM  
This is an incredible advancement in the wood industry.  I've seen it many times at IWF and I still think it's smoke and mirrors.  It's too "WOW" to be true. 

Here is an article I read a while back from Inc. magazine.  It is a wonderful read on the politics of invention.  Why isn't it on every saw?  Because without it on a saw, the mfg can argue you were a dumb ass for sticking your finger in the blade.  With it on the saw and if it fails....BIG LAWSUIT.  Sad but reality.

Read the article especially page two when it discusses the FIRST TIME he put his finger into the blade.  I would have failed that test and said "no thanks on this invention"
http://www.inc.com/magazine/20050701/disruptor-gass.html


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10 Feb 2010 04:09 AM  
my only injury has been with a drill press yrs ago. Drilling a piece of lexan, the bit hung, spun it around. It cut me 4 times before I could pull back and say "^%$#@"
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10 Feb 2010 10:36 AM  
I understand that manufacturers don't like to add safety equipment unless mandated by the government. If they do, they are basically saying the old model is NOT safe and leaves them open to lawsuits.

This is typical in our country.

Just read the safety rules for a chain saw. Do Not touch chain while moving. If you are dumb enough to touch the chain while its moving do you really thing they read the manual?
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15 Feb 2010 07:14 AM  

CAUTION: Contents related but off topic.

 

Is there anyway to eliminate the lawyers? ALL of them!

If you don't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them. bwolle@msn.com
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