Gene McDonald
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| 18 Nov 2008 06:31 AM |
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well, just got it last night...as iread Kevins editorial and it pumped me up as usual and always does...I traveled into JON's article...Depression...it is such an interesting topic in the workplace but can also be a problem, the guys I ran around with in the industry would tease you if someone said. hey guys I am feeling depressed! I myself was one of those that would feel it can be slapped outta you, that was because i was ignorant...deprssion is not complaining and whining...it will slow down production...as an employer now, I have the attitude that if they are depressed get outta here...but if someone else has a different type of emotional problem, I seem to be ok with it and figure it will go away soon If they are angry, thats ok, if they are whatever thats ok....Depression they are outta here....well if it happens to your greatest asset the story might change....Jons articles always make me think...and if i enjoy having the benefits of my employees helping me live a better life, than maybe I should help them in more ways than a paycheck if the need arises..... last but not least I stop after TOM's article....talk about hitting home....when people enter my shop and look at samples, they say statements like toms mentioned...I mean they dont even try to whisper...OH I dont want that crap, that scratches, I heard that you cant put a hot pot on it!...First I dont have time to pull out the accurate literature of pros and cons, because that is just another thing they read and heard, they feel i am the enemy and the deal and negotations begin At the time I been sticking to my guns and it was worth it, I had calls and said Gene I wish I would have paid the extra 300.oo to have you, you were honest, You told me the maintenance issues based on my lifestyle...i dont need to explain, I was honest...Dark Acrylic SS they get the truth...anyway I see this is turning into a long post...I am going to work now and I'll finish the SF mag during lunch Thanx for the input guys...what a great feeling trip i had in the short read...Kevin Pumped me up, Jon made me aware of my bigotry, Tom prepared me for the CT knowledge in customers heads...Thanx for the tips guys!!!!!  |
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Andy
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| 18 Nov 2008 10:38 AM |
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I didn't get my magazine yet. I'm always the last to get it.
As for depression, I think the employees always think the worst and this economy may be adding to their depression. I know some of the guys I see are a bit discouraged. I don't know if it is depression but they seem a little depressed.
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| 18 Nov 2008 03:32 PM |
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Don't feel too badly Andy, I haven't gotten mine yet either. |
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Gene McDonald
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| 18 Nov 2008 04:53 PM |
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well..youse guys can simply click on here to scroll to the recentr issue...the guys on the cover had a cool story too about sticking with Solid Surface anyway heres the click http://www.surfacefabrication.com/ |
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| 18 Nov 2008 05:58 PM |
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Gene:
I respect a man who admits to his bigotry and a willngness to change on a public forum as you have done.
Quite admirable,
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| 18 Nov 2008 07:01 PM |
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i got mine today ill read it tomorrow |
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| 21 Nov 2008 06:15 PM |
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Gene:
I've read this month's issue and you're right in that Kevin does his usual great job of pumping readers up.
I'm wondering if there isn't some sort of only-good-news philosophy at Cygnus that Kevin is carrying out or has to implement.
With my extensive industry contacts, I just found out that a major and well-respected solid surface player closed his granite shop recently. Far be it from me to tell Kevin how to run his magazine, but don't you think an interview with this fabricator fleshing out his reasoning for this major self-inflicted wound would be extremely valueable to other fabricators? I'm all for good news, but I'm not seeing how ignoring the train wrecks we are going to witness before this recession ends serves fabricator interests.
The international no sign superimposed over the face of a fallen fabricator instead of the usual circular picture on the cover is a bit over the top for me, but so is ignoring the carnage now and to come when the blood is already up to our knees. How can we tell where we are going if we don't know where we are?
Does Cygnus have an obligation to tell us or to pander to the everything-is-just-fine-move-along attitude advertisers want to convey?
You're never going to see an Obituary in Surface Fabrication magazine, no matter how much you would like to know and no matter how much you could learn from another's mistake and/or solution.
Joe
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Kevin, I'll write it if you'll print it; my rates have risen since I've completed Comp 1.  |
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| 21 Nov 2008 08:09 PM |
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i liked Kevin's article its like he read my mind! and toms article reflected some of what i have been talking about across the board fabricators that cater to specific materials put out a lot of miss information. leaving those of us that fab multiple materials with a mess to clean up.
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| 21 Nov 2008 11:54 PM |
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"leaving those of us that fab multiple materials with a mess to clean up. "
Heh, That about sums it up better than the entire article. Retail allows the best, most knowledgeable people do the selling. Multi-material retail shops help out even more, as there is less pressure to convince the consumer into buying what might not be the best material - for them. |
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| 22 Nov 2008 05:53 AM |
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I just read Kevin's and Tom's articles Very nice. Tom you have some really good ideas. Kevin thanks for thinking out matters for us.
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| 22 Nov 2008 06:26 AM |
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Lets not forget Chris Abate. He did an excellent job explaining how software can help a fabricator.
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| 22 Nov 2008 08:41 AM |
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Jon, thanks for the compliment. At the risk of starting a circle jerk, I've long read your writing and have always benefited from it. |
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| 22 Nov 2008 12:39 PM |
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Tom and Jon:
Excellent job both.
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| 23 Nov 2008 02:12 AM |
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Still no magazine, but I always read it online anyway.
Kevin had written many "From the Editor" articles about the economy and his perspective on the industry.
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| 23 Nov 2008 09:32 AM |
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Thank you, Joe. |
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| 23 Nov 2008 10:27 AM |
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Thanks Jon. :-) |
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| 02 Dec 2008 03:45 PM |
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Thanks to all of you for the kind words. I really appreciate your feedback. Sometimes the kudos are few and far between, although I seem to be hitting the nail on the head for many of you lately.
As for painting a rosy picture, I don't think my Nov. editorial does at all. I think rather than just screaming that the sky is falling, I tried to offer some ideas to keep afloat. I also think my October editorial was a bit dark, too. I certainly am not trying to tell an inaccurate story. Believe me, I know how crappy the economy is and how many in this industry suffer. But I think to dwell on only the problems and not look at any possible corrective measures doesn't have much value.
And I also agree with all of you about Jon, Tom and Chris' articles. You guys did a great job. Thanks so much for working with me and bringing your perspectives to the readers. You all have valuable insights.
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